Desi Contracting Companies : The bad & the ugly


Desi Contractors in the USA. They run firms that go to India and bring qualified professionals to the US on an H1 B visa. The professional puts everything on line and places his/her trust in the hands of these companies.

And then start the horror stories. In the last six months I have come across countless number of professionals who have received nothing but pain, mental torture, agony and blackmailed by these Contracting companies. They have not been paid a single dime, there have been very few interviews that were arranged for a project and most of the time the professionals end up being interviewed by “other” contracting companies, the dozens that exist between them and the actual client.

It’s time to do something about this issue which seems to be going on and on. It’s time to speak about it more openly. It’s time to talk about this issue on air, at Desi Talk, so people from America to Australia can hear about this. It’s time to be more open to talk about some of these contracting firms that feel they have a license to torture the professionals they bring from India.

So What’s the Plan?

On Sunday, Aug 13, 2006, at 10 am PST (check your local time), Desi Talk will have a 2 – 3 hour show specifically on this issue.

So What can I do?

A Lot. Have you been a victim of such companies? Do you know of anyone who has been a victim of the dark ways of such companies?

Then shoot me an email – desitrain at gmail, or use the contact form to send me your story.

What should be the content of the email, we write to you

1. Your name (or initials or make some name up if you are afraid or in a sensitive position)

2. Your current location.

3. The name of the Desi Contracting Company & the US city it operates from

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4. The story about how the company ripped you or your friends off.

Please ensure you have all 4 points, so as to be included in the show.

So what will you do with these emails?

I will read your emails on air, keeping your name a secret, I will broadcast the name of these companies along with the horror stories about them that you write to me. Desi Talk has listeners from America to Australia. Your stories WILL be heard!

I will also be inviting a few software contractors, so we can hear their side of the story.

You will also be able to call in during the show and speak your mind out. Dial In Number - (347) 677-0688 (also mentioned of the Radio Show page)

You can voice your questions to these contractors (mind you they are good friends of mine and are one of the few Good guys in this messy contracting industry). You can voice your opinions, your pent up frustrations, your comments all on the show.

August 13, 2006 (Sunday) at 10 AM PST @ Desi Talk

Please spread the word around, and come forward and speak your mind out on this issue. Please email this post to your friends, and spread the awareness!!!

It’s time these abuses at the hands some of these contracting companies is discussed wide in the open.

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23 Responses to “Desi Contracting Companies : The bad & the ugly”

  1. Patrix Says:

    > 10 am.

    What time zone?

  2. oz Says:

    Patrix. sorry about that 10am PST

  3. Kituz Says:

    Awesome … exactly wht i was looking 4 … i will send u details abt all of em m*f* !!

  4. oz Says:

    - Kituz, way to go :)>- I look forward to reading your stories on radio.

  5. Kituz Says:

    Dude can u start another thread rdg consultancies in India that b* about helpin u get F1 / helpin u get thru interviews @ us consulates all over?

    Nightmares man nitemares …..

  6. oz Says:

    - Kituz, Good idea. I’m gonna club this with the rest of the show.

  7. good ones Says:

    how about a list of reasonable/good contracting compaines

  8. oz Says:

    - GO, That is a good idea, that we can talk on another segment. This one, I wanna focus on the bad ones… ofcourse listeners are free to drop in names of good companies during the show.

  9. IT Contractor Says:

    Launching soon, Rate, Review your contractor
    http://itcontractorrating.com

  10. vivek Says:

    What is the point of just talking? Why not complain about the ugly ones to the immigration folks?

  11. sumeet Says:

    Vivek,

    There is very less we can do to them legally as things they do are abiding to the law. Our hands are tied in this matter. But, if you know anything that can be done to improve our desi-people’s plight.. do come on air and give a shout or anything. Oz, is trying to list out companies which have scrwed people.. hey if you can add to it or comeup with something which can practically be done.. that is awesome..

  12. FenderBender Says:

    While on the topic of desi contracting companies, I came across a wonderful article about the Indian IT industry. It’s really well written. You can read it here on my blog…

    http://fenderbender.wordpress.com/2006/08/08/the-indian-it-industry-a-bubble-waiting-to-burst/

    ~Manoj~

  13. sumeet Says:

    DT readers,

    The Archives are up and running….Go there listen to what you all have been missing. Go ahead folks to the top right corner of desitrain.com page and click on Blog radio. When in there click the Archived segments and Kabooomm You can listen to the segments you missed.

  14. Hell O Victim Says:

    Hi
    Whats the point in telling the story if nothing can be done about it?? If I tell my story and then the company finds out that I was the one involved in exposing such a scandalous behaviour, all that will happen is that they will be exposed… What about my future?? What about the fact that I am stuck there?? I dont think there is any point in airing such a show, all that needs to be done is may be redirect such people to a genuine company and help them re-establish… These words wont matter as much as actions do…

  15. mukz Says:

    I am seeing many people talking abt this topic.

    I am not part of this website, but i liked what these guys are doing. Not sure if they will be able to continue wht they r doing. http://www.desicrunch.com/
    they call it website for “reviews of desi consulting companies & more”

  16. stamlo Says:

    I am looking for the listed companies under good and bad. Please sent me the link. I am fed up with my employer.

  17. Harshal Vaidya Says:

    I’ve launched a site for just this. Rating your desi consultancy.

    http://www.goolti.com

    http://www.goolti.com

    You can write reviews for the consultancy you work for and can help others taking informed decisions.

  18. Amit Gupta Says:

    There is a company by name EBusiness Application Solutions. (EBAS). Do not fall into the trap. They promise good salary and placement. They are unsuccessul in placing any one for at least 6 months. The training is very bad. A lot of h1s filed by the company was rejected

  19. lad Says:

    There is a company called Betasoftsystems.Don’t fall in their trap,dont give them money or sign contracts with them.

  20. Vithi Says:

    betasoftsystems is good for those who work hard and continiously try their best to clear the interviews…and bad for those who by bad luck or lack of hardwork ….cannot get through anywhere.Believe me .its just depends upon personal experience.In the end wat matters is job…and beleive me no company can place you if you r not placable and if you are , you would never be complaining!!!

  21. poo Says:

    Recache Inc. based in rochester hills, mi == dont joint them they fooled me very badly

  22. Stop Bodyshopping Says:

    Friends,

    Be aware of your rights. Charging for H1B processing is illegal. Charging for any training is ILLEGAL. NOT PAYING ON BENCH IS ILLEGAL. To make things simple for you I am listing all the lawsuits from the following site and summarizing the findings. Dept of Labor has it very clear. Not paying on becnh is illegal. A person is considered on bench if the employment is not properly terminated.

    Look at all these cases
    http://www.oalj.dol.gov/PUBLIC/INA/REFERENCES/CASELISTS/LCA_DECISIONS.HTM

    Charging for H1B processing is illegal. Charging for any training is ILLEGAL. NOT PAYING ON BENCH IS ILLEGAL
    2003-LCA-12 Neerja Rajan vs International Business Solutions.

    Making employee sign bonds which says that employee must pay XYZ $ if he /she leaves before n months IS ILLEGAL. THERE IS NO BONDED LABOR.
    2006-LCA-29 USDOL Vs Avenue Dental

    You must complain to DOL if you feel you have been wronged. There is no time limit for complaining. You can complain even if you ARE NOT IN USA. You can complain from India. The judge will listen to your case on phone. You DON’T NEED A LAWYER. THE DOL WILL FIGHT THE CASE ON YOUR BEHALF. YOU JUST NEED TO MAKE A COMPLAIN TO DOL WITH SOME SOLID DETAILS. PLEASE MAKE SURE YOUR PROVIDE SOME SOLID INFOR. DOL MAY THINK YOU ARE JOKING IF YOU DONT PROVIDE SOME CONCRETE INFO.

    WHEN YOU COMPLAIN, DOL WILL INVESTIGATE THE ENTIRE COMPANY AND NOT JUST YOUR FILE. SO EMPLOYER WILL NOT KNOW ITS YOU WHO FILED COMPLAINT. THEY WILL ASK EMPLOYER TO SHOW ALL PAYSTUBS AND THEN TELL EMPLOYER TO PAY ALL H1B EMPLOYEES THE CORRECT WAGE ( NOT PAID ON BENCH, H1 FEE CHARGED, TRAINING FEE, ETC). SO YOUR IDENTITY WILL REMAIN CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE EMPLOYER DOESNT COMPLY THEN THE DOL WILL FILE LAWSUIT AGAISNT HIM/HER AND YOU WILL BE IMMEDIATELY PROTECTED AGAINST RETALIATION. IF THE EMPLOYER DARES TO RETALIATE ( BY TRYING TO CANCEL YOUR VISA), HE WILL BE IN MUCH MUCH BIGGER TROUBLE. YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO LEAVE USA.

    2004-LCA-6 Amtel vs Yongmahakapakorn ( Rung)

    Employee need not ask for bench pay. Employer must give even without asking
    2005-LCA-36 Zhaolin Mao vs George Nasser

    Employment is not terminated unless employer does the three things –
    1) Give employee notification of termination
    2) Inform INS
    3) Offer return ticket
    2005-LCA-36 Zhaolin Mao vs George Nasser

    Employer cannot retaliate against employee( if employee complains to DOL) by cancelling his/her visa. This is because complaining to DOL is protected activity.
    2006-LCA-9 USDOL vs Clean Air Technologies
    2004-LCA-6 Amtel vs Yongmahakapakorn ( Rung)

    Employer needs to pay employee what amount is mentioned in LCA even though employe may be making extra money through other sources
    2004-LCA-21 USDOL vs Pegasus Consulting
    2006-LCA-29 USDOL Vs Avenue Dental

    Employer must pay even though employee has lied in resume
    2003-LCA-12 Neerja Rajan vs International Business Solutions

    Your LCA doesn’t stop even if you convert to another visa. The employer has to pay you till end of LCA unless there was bonafide termination of employment i.e. notification to INS etc
    2004-LCA-21 USDOL vs Pegasus Consulting
    2005-LCA-36 Zhaolin Mao vs George Nasser

    Interest must be paid on backwages
    2006-LCA-9 USDOL vs Clean Air Technologies
    2005-LCA-36 Zhaolin Mao vs George Nasser

    Employer is personally responsible for the LCA violations. The DOL can make the employer pay from his own pocket by piercing the corporate veil. Company formation doesn’t remove liability of employer as an individual. The bodyshopper cannot declare bankruptcy to run away from his obligations
    2001- LCA-10 USDOL vs Mohan Kutty
    2004-LCA-40 USDOL vs Home mortgage
    2006-LCA-29 USDOL Vs Avenue Dental
    2005-LCA-42 USDOL Vs Priority one software

    In case employer fails to affect a bonafide termination then backwages need to be paid till end of visa period.
    2004-LCA-6 Amtel vs Yongmahakapakorn ( Rung)

    Courts will impose additional fines and penalties on employer.
    2004-LCA-6 Amtel vs Yongmahakapakorn ( Rung)

    Employer cannot mask bench time by deception by making you sign leave of absence letter
    2003-LCA-22, USDOL vs Synergy Systems
    2002 – LCA-22 USDOL Vs Novinvest

    Employer is required to keep LCA ( all immigration papers) for Public examination and give you your visa papers. If employer doesn’t give immigration papers then he cannot terminate you. That means you must be paid as there has been no bonafide termination. The employer is required to keep LCA papers near the kitchen/coffee room.
    2001- LCA-10 USDOL vs Mohan Kutty
    2003-LCA-15 USDOL vs Ken technologies
    2006-LCA-29 USDOL Vs Avenue Dental

    Employer cannot park visa by taking calculated risk
    2004-LCA-21 USDOL vs Pegasus Consulting

    Courts understand that employee is desperate to maintain his/her visa status and sometimes is late for filing complaint
    2003-LCA-12 Neerja Rajan vs International Business Solutions

    Most bodyshoppers are willful violators. Civil penalties will be imposed on them
    2004-LCA-40 USDOL vs Home mortgage
    2006-LCA-26 USDOL Vs API Accounting
    2003-LCA-22, USDOL vs Synergy Systems
    2001- LCA-10 USDOL vs Mohan Kutty
    2006-LCA-29 USDOL Vs Avenue Dental
    2006-LCA-26 USDOL Vs API Accounting
    —–

    PLEASE FORWARD THIS EMAIL TO ALL FRIENDS.LETS CREATE AWARENESS IN H1B COMMUNITY

  23. izzy Says:

    Is bonded Labour Valid in the usa ? I have signed a bond with an US employer & he is asking me to fly now or else face some huge amount ( as mentioned in the contract ) . Can he force me to fly ?? he has even filed a lawsuit against me. Please tell me what i have to do.

    Thanks

    Izzy

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