The Secret Underground Clubs of L.A.

Los Angeles, California. Home of many clubs and communities who operate out in the open or are underground; in the real world or just online; catering to various topics from sex, seduction, money, finance, you name it and there’s a community or a club. But the underground clubs have an edginess to them which makes it exciting to want to know about them. Perhaps in terms of the knowledge they possess or the activities which they are unwilling to share with the rest of the world. Maybe spreading those secrets out in the open makes the knowledge, a secret so far, lose its edge. Maybe there are other reasons. Entry to these clubs is by invitation only, or you have to know an existing member who can piggy back you inside.

So, it was a little surprising when I received an email from such an underground club, last week. The email began with telling me how they came to know me (complete references were provided) and why they would like to invite me to attend a 3 day boot camp for a X amount of money and in turn learn the art of ahem….Romance….right from picking up a woman at any place to wherever you want it to go. A one night stand or maybe a life long romantic journey, it was up to me on how to use the tools they would ingrain in me. So I call the number and speak to this person “S” – the conveyor of the club. Leads as to the club’s existence were provided by “S” along with some quite famous names as references and their numbers. I told “S” that I needed time to think plus I wanted to talk to the references. I put the phone down and was immediately dialing a number from the reference list, which belongs to a person almost all of us know by name. I get the voice mail, leave a message. Call up a second successful personality, - damn – I’m thinking “Why would such successful people need a club like this????” the answer to which I was soon to receive. The references called me back and I spoke to them at length. The more I listened and the more I used my analytical questions to get an answer, the more I was in awe of the whole concept of this underground club.
Two hours after reading the email I called up “S” - the conveyer of the club and got myself enrolled to a 3 day boot camp. The camp was at a very private mansion, belonging to one of the members of the community. It would be a 12 to 14 hour session each day. The first 5 – 6 hours would be spent as a lecture format where in the complete science of the “Method”, this underground club had invented and closely guarded, would be explained and the rest 6 to 7 hours would be going out to the “field” (bars/clubs/malls) and try the process out under the watchful eyes of about 7 – 8 instructors. If you had doubts, the instructors would play out the method for you at the bar/club and you would see the results, learn where you were making a mistake and go forward from there. The instructors as such were just day to day people, former students of the secret method, who were living their regular lives and helping the club by their active participation and volunteering. Surprisingly 99% of the instructors I met over the next 3 days were Computer Programmers.

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So I reach the venue on the appointed day of Day One of the camp. There are 4 more guys like me at the venue who were sent the invites which they had accepted. The “pros” as I like to call the instructors are all there and the session is on. There’s a legal non-disclosure agreement to be signed along with a vow to be taken which is not the reveal the exact existence of the community and secrets we would learn here at the club. Hence I’ve tried to keep this blog as vague and abstract as possible.
The club wasn’t a club until 4 years ago. It all began with one person “E” (not from the U.S.) who would go out to a bar or a club and would sometimes meet women, sometimes not, at times he would get a number or get completely blown off. Sometimes the women would meet him for a second date or flake. He was quite intrigued by the whole process and began to research why does this happens and why isn’t the success rate of meeting and dating women any higher. Researching this also assisted this fine young guy (he was about 22 then) in the career he had chosen for himself. The idea turned into a research, which then turned into building a model, experimenting the model out in the field, coming back and reshaping the model, testing it out again…until 10 years later he started sharing selectively his model online with a few others. This is a guy who genuinely loves people and used this model to find his right woman. He is so good that on day 1 of the camp at a famous club in Hollywood, he would walk to a woman or a group of women, talk for 3 minutes and before I could blink, women were tugging his arm, not letting him go, kissing, phone-numbers, buying drinks for him….each and every women he spoke to that night in the club and in the other clubs we went to…EACH AND EVERY WOMAN KISSED HIM, GAVE HIM – HER NUMBER AND WAS PUSHING HIM TO STAY LONGER AND TALK WITH THEM, from white women to black women to oriental women to Indian women, ALL, all of them. In one instance while “E” was talking to a woman, another woman he had spoken to earlier, walks right up to them and shoves her phone number in E’s pocket right in front of the woman “E” is talking to. All I could do is drop my jaw, pop my eye balls out of my sockets and go “WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT?”
On the final day “E” declared “Guys, I’m the greatest Pickup artist you will ever meet”. And I absolutely believe him. PUA. That’s the only lingo I can share with you. PUA. Pick up artist. Use the tools to socialize and find your woman, who in normal circumstances would have blown you off, by her back handed slap in a public place, if you had dared approached her. It’s inbuilt in women I guess. Say if a woman is a 7+, she’ll be approached by 4 – 5 men each time she goes out for clubbing, shopping or simply walking. Say 20 – 25 men a week, 100 a month, 1200 a year and if she’s say around 30ish, then in her life so far she’s been approached by 12 thousand men in about 10 years. And here’s the catch. She’s now built an automated response system. “Sorry we are busy”, “Get Lost”, “I am leaving, sorry”, “Could you leave” – all these responses are hurled without a thought for a second when a guy approaches them. The response system triggers off and they blurt out any of the sentences above. They may think the next day “Hmm…that guy looked cute. Maybe I shouldn’t have blown him away….hmmm…what the hell…there are 100 more coming next week…” – Science, that’s what the instructors at the club have boiled it down to and I was nodding aggressively convinced of the validity of their research.
Besides “E”, the other instructors showed their skill levels and were quite successful. “S” – the conveyor of the camp even had three or four women that night that drove to his hotel room. Well that I have only seen in porn movies, but it was the first time I saw for real. As a foot note, the members of the club are strictly asked to only pick women who are a 7 plus. “E” never picks up anyone below a 10. I met his fiancé, an ex-Maxim model on Day 3 and I had my hair standing straight out. And “E’s” personal advice to us was to use the process model to find a life mate not a one night stand. It totally made sense. Inspite of women all over him, he comes out of the bar or the club and throws away all the Phone numbers, to drive back home, to the love of his life. This is just an art he wants to share with us, the same art which helped him drive away his loneliness, become social and develop contacts for his business and finally find the woman he dreamed of.
I applied the 3 phases I was taught that day (Day1) at the clubs and bars we went to and though I had an above average success, I have to polish the application. I realized that day that I have - approach anxiety. You see, it is so easy to approach a single woman at any place, but do woman usually go out alone? No. They are in groups with other women or men and approaching a group gives me a feeling which is similar to jumping from a plane. I would never think of doing this. And that’s where the model is different from the rest. YOU HAVE TO APPROACH GROUPS ONLY; you approach singles if you have no other option. I was about to die when I was pushed towards a group – 5 men all basketball players with one woman. I messed it up badly though I got a few laughs from the group. I left the group and headed straight to the bar to empty my Heineken in two gulps. But the instructors in the field kept pushing me. They would give me a break in terms of making me watch them do the 3 phases with groups all around. No more Heineken. That again is another rule at the underground club. No alcohol in the field.
The three days at the club have been an eye opener. Though the approach anxiety still exists, the success of approaching groups is piling up and thinking about it pushes me to socialize with groups. On the last day I was able to isolate a beautiful woman from Bangalore, from her group of 3 men and 2 women and at the end she blurted out “When are you going to ask me for my number? I want to see you tomorrrr….again. I want to see you again soon”…I was like – whooooooosh…never has a woman responded to me so passionately and aggressively, so fast and to think that I had only spoken to this cute Bangalorean for just under 20 minutes. The process model was working.
At the end of day 3 I was exhausted. 14 hours each day for the last 3 days, but it was well worth it. Different perspectives, an intelligent tool, now mine to use for life. Coming back home, the first thing I did was trash all the books I had collected so far on how to find your woman, or the art of pick up or the rules of seduction – all these books occupying a whole shelf found their way to the trash bin. And it was then I realized how difficult it is now with the age of Information Overload to find the right and correct information. Googling about the club I had just been with produces no results for the first 600 pages until I found a link to one of their discussion boards, entry to which is for members of the club only. How in the world will anyone know how big the secret behind such an inconspicuous web page is? I would never even have clicked on the link had I not known about the club.
Not many of the instructors or the pros who came in at different times in those 3 days, to teach us the model – were rich or had a personality which would draw a woman to them in normal circumstances. I would rate them as a 4 or 5 on scale for men. But their girlfriends, a few I had the pleasure to meet were all 8+, intelligent, passionate about life and above all good, loving, giving, caring partners for life. I met the number 2 man of the club - “S2” - on the last night where we gathered around him for the last hour on a nice terrace bar and introduced ourselves to him. S2 is less than 5’7”, is partially bald, shaved head, light beard, thin, very thin, to point that people will think he is very weak. But there is S2 walking in with his girlfriend, a girl whose pictures I must have shagged on for 100 times in the past. And when S2 started talking with all of us 5 students around him, we were dazed, mesmerized by what he had to say. It is not your money, not your status, not your personality which will get you the woman you like. It’s the process, was the last sentence S2 said, before we all got up to leave towards our own individual worlds we had left behind 3 days ago. “The Process”. The words kind of registered right on target somewhere in my system. “The Process”.

What now? Well I’m in the community. I have homework. A certain amount of hours of practice to be done in the field. Then I have to give the feedback back to “S” in a few weeks and then hook up with the club a few weeks from now. Go online to the club’s underground website and find my wing-man, with whom I can go out to the field and get advice on what steps I’m doing right and what are my sticking points. I’ve realized I should no longer attach any emotions or feelings to the end result. It’s the process that counts. And the process works. Even in Southern California, the toughest, most competitive dating place on Planet Earth.


4 Responses to “The Secret Underground Clubs of L.A.”

  1. Anonymous Says:

    Sorry dude the toughest place to date is Northern California. We northies find southie to be easier playfield :)di

  2. oz Says:

    Comments from original post on sulekha…

    Maria S comments:
    on May 10 2005 5:41PM
    “Well I’m in the community”.

    Are these Communities or Cults?

    At some point there is a cross over- when someone tells someone ‘to keep things secretive’..and promiscuity (emotional or physical) with strangers is made to look alluring- I am surprised there was no open drug use..which is one of the components.

    Treading carefully..into unknown, underground territories, before getting deeper, maybe a good idea…I know, it’s your life, not anyone else’s:)

    Maria

    Dina Strange comments:
    on May 10 2005 6:12PM
    didn’t get it, really :)

    tuffy guy comments:
    on May 12 2005 2:11AM
    It reminds me of the movie ‘Fightclub’

    Top secularist comments:
    on May 12 2005 3:36AM
    you can start refering other people on sulekha to these clubs. Helping more desis ….

  3. Anonymous Says:

    ummm the society of PUA.Read the book ‘the game’.

    oz,
    do u know any such groups in india ???

    manoj1670@mailcity.com

  4. local rowdy Says:

    HEY BRO.
    am from blore and myself find it tough to pick up women here.
    need some know-how of the process man. they need to start an india-bangalore branch or seomthin .

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